In the second part of my latest interview with Doug Lain I discuss the different levels of abstraction at which Marx discusses value relations and the particular approach I’ve taken in my Law of Value series. I’m sorry the interview ended when it did as I think we had some miscommunication about real abstractions toward the end of the video. It seemed like Doug was making the point that any society uses abstractions in the way it agrees upon common language, viewpoints and philosophical orientations. But this is not the same as the real abstraction of abstract labor that Marx is dealing with in a capitalist society. Abstract labor is not a commonly agreed upon mental abstraction that unifies the mental orientation of social subjectivities. Abstract labor is an objective abstraction imposed upon subjectivities. Rather than producing some unified, socially agreed upon, mental abstraction in subjects it creates contradictory and confusing subjectivities that fragment the social body.